LordVehemence 2009-01-21 17:30:52

All that reading the comments on this has done is reinforce my belief that 95% of people (mostly middle-class white Americans) are stupid. I hate to be so blunt, but that's really the best way to describe it; Stupid.

Someone earlier was complaining how gay parents adopting will lead to gay children, and so on and so forth and that the human race would cease to be. First off saying that someone will become gay because they are around people who are gay (whether it be their parents, co-workers or friends) is just like saying hanging out with tall people will make you tall. Secondly saying that gay parent shouldn't be able to adopt is something that just really rubs me the wrong way. In no way do I think a child is better off in an over-crowded adoption agency rather than in a loving home with caring parents.

Thirdly; and this is a rather morbid point, but in case you guys haven't noticed the Earth is facing a frightening over-population crisis. Like...really guys. The last thing we need is more babies being made right now.

But anyways, the video was nice. I enjoyed it and it was well-animated.

Hooray!

JazLyte 2009-01-21 19:32:53

Even though I'm agnostic, and really have no problem with homosexuality, or gay marriage, I still think people being born gay is a load of bullshit. I'm not saying I think people just wake up one morning and decide their sexuality manually; but I do agree that it's a conditioned effect put into place by many developmental variables in a person's upbringing. It's no different than a foot fetish, which I have, and can trace it back to most women in my family walking around barefoot all the time and many other factors. No man knows what a dick is, or who Cher is in the womb.

Saying it's biological is a lazy man's excuse that just sounds intellectual. Like a fetish or a favorite food, or any other conditioned effect, depending on what the person wants and strives toward with the right steps, yes it is reversible. If you're gay, and that's what you want, then do it to it. But if somebody's attracted to the same sex but really wants badly to do it the traditional way, don't tell them it's impossible. You're just as bad as the churches when you do that.

RoninDrake 2009-01-21 20:34:32

Someone I know who works with a lot of gay people once mentioned something that one of them said. It was something to the tune of "If it was a choice, then why would anyone make it with as hard as it makes your life." Sums that portion of it, I think.

One of the big problems I've seen with a number of people's stance on gay marraige is that it should be allowed, but should be given a different name. The problem with this idea, which I've expressed as often as I've heard that ideology, is that different words inherently mean different things. "Bill and George are (new term here) later this year. You know, gay marrying."

Some people say gays already have a form of marraige in civil unions. Aside from things already stated earlier, there are roughly 1140 federal laws that contain the word "marraige" and provide benefits and such thereupon. There are considerably less which include "civil union"

Someone above mentioned that catholic gays shouldn't be marryed in a catholic ceremony so as to appease the church. To truly appease them, they'd need to change the basis of who they are... or die in some horrific fashion, not so much the second one nowadays. (The term 'faggot' was first used for them when they were being burned at the stake)

As for YungJazz's opposition to the idea of being born gay, I think they're leaning more towards a heavy predisposition from birth, where environmental factors play in as well. For example, in the video they mention that if one twin is gay, the other is likely to be as well close to 70% of the time. After birth, the environmental bits you prefer to ascribe as the cause come into play. Yes, no one knows about those things from birth (cher is a bit of a stereotype, don't you think) but many of the hormones involved and such aren't yet working either. I'd go into mental pathways and things of that nature, but I know almost nothing about the subject, and would rather not talk out my ass.

BOBTHEBOB12345 2009-01-21 20:42:17

Man, Labusch, youre pretty evil. Your calling people hitler, and then you go saying that we should do all the things hitler did to jewish people to gay people. there is absolutely nothing wrong with gay people, and its disturbing to hear homophobes like you threaten gay people in such violent ways. i know a few gay people, and their no different than anybody else i know.
P.S. Obama is an awesome president, and if you dont like it, then it fucking sucks to be you cuz youre stuck with him for the next 4-8 years.

EL FIN.

silvercrap 2009-01-21 21:35:55

Holy hell, alot of opinions here.
Alot of them aren't that well thought out either.. Lol after watching this i knew there'd be a million comments.

baeduxai 2009-07-30 14:19:29

Haha, I'm good with homosexuals and all.... but wow; seeing the comments here I've come to a conclusion that this whole freedom shit is a load of crap =/. Honestly, just keep it chill. It's not like people are brainwashing you to be straight or gay. I don't know about Science and shit but...you like who you like. 'Nuff said. Blah, politics and inconsiderate people tick me off =/ xD.