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Damn Shape Movies

Posted by Kajenx - January 11th, 2009


The shape movies proved but one thing: Newgrounds places great value on humor. But everyone knew this already, didn't they?

I've followed this Newgrounds War idea for a little bit because I've felt lost in this mad jumble of a website, but it deflated pretty rapidly for me. The rating system isn't a measure of quality, it's a measure of what the average person likes. While this isn't great, how can such a thing really be judged? We're all humans, we all have to ability to make judgments, so maybe a massive average really is the best judgment of quality. I've come to understand that most people rate each movie just one criteria, did they like it and how much? What else do you really need?

Whatever the case, all it really gets down to is what you're making movies for. If you spend hours on something, and it wins nothing, sure that's a drag. Yet even if you win, it's a fleeting, passing thing that dies away rather quickly. I've gotten front page, daily and weekly awards. Hell, I was even on the top 50 for a few days. But I'll bet most of you don't know or care who I am. I felt pretty much forgotten after a week. But I'm still working on another game. You know why? Because I want to create something, not because I want an award or a high score.

Newgrounds has taught me a lot. When I first came here I expected everything I made to be considered the best. It told me, rather bluntly, that I was nowhere near the best, but that did little more than motivate me to try harder and my work improved dramatically.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: when you really look at it, art is always pointless and celebrity rarely lasts. In the end, when all of that goes away and you're still proud of what you've made, you are a success.


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Well, it is funny but if it wasn't submitted by the people who submitted them or voiced by those people, it would lose 0.60 of its score. I loved them though!

u know the same thing happened to me. i expected everything i made to be amazing and automatically be on the front page. when it got blammed (the never do anymore) or didnt even get green (wtf?) i got really disappointed. not in myself, but in the people of newgrounds.

i still blame you all.

Humor? Incorrect, it's mostly based on how many fans you have of your work. Doesn't matter what your work is, if you got a couple thousand fans to back you up then you get higher scores.

-"In the end, when all of that goes away and you're still proud of what you've made, you are a success."

Bravo mr. give yourself a pat in the back.

also I did make one of those figure cartoon things but It scored kinda shitty, that ok 4 u?

I rofled.

"celebrity rarely lasts"
well, not if you constantly give the people what they want,
and do video game parodies for example,
over and over and over.....

Know what im sayin?

I don't know if you took the words right out of my mouth, or taught me something. I guess that's just what I'm trying to tell myself to accept about Newgrounds. The rating system in no way grades quality, but is instead just a score of popularity.

But Sirschmoopy makes a good point. It isn't just the popularity of the flash that makes the score, its also the popularity of the artist. Its unfortunate that that's the way things have to be, but when there's as community as broad and diverse as newgrounds, you obviously can't trust people to be good judges.

But you're right. When all is said and done, if you're proud of your work, does it matter that a thousand 13-19 year old fanboys liked the shitty flash by the popular artist better?

I made a shape movie and looking at the movies released today it's going to be in the top five. If I was anyone else it wouldn't be in the top 20 but when you have a bunch of people that will watch your stuff and vote high even if they only kinda liked it well... thats just how the world works, not just Newgrounds.

I started on on Newgrounds making a series that was never bigger then a front page and maybe a daily award after the first half of dozen but the more movies you release and the more a website starts to watch your stuff, the more people you will get to watch your future creations.

If your submitting your movies on JUST newgrounds, I would strongly recommend putting them on other sites as well if possible. The more people you get to watch your work, the more people you will have for your future projects.

Fame lasts as long as you want it to last. If you make one movie then stop, people will forget about you but then again if you make another in the future they might recognize you the second time around.

hey you made splash attack

See? Isn't it great being known for the piece of work I cared the least about!

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anyone that gets stressed over a website "war" needs to chillax.

shut up obviously you haven't been here long enough

It's cuz they're famous in newgrounds.

i think it not funny and the animators need to get there ass kicked and stop wasting time and effort on this stupid shit PEOPLE IT NOT FUNNY AND IT WILL NEVER BE FUNNY STOP ENCOURAGING THEM this is worse that spam pepole we need to blam this stupid shit to make newground what it was a flash site no a site where you throw random ass art and put voices on them and call it work the shape one i am talking about so stop encouraging them and blam there retarded shit

It's a difficult barrier to cross, where you finally realise that all the work you're so proud of isn't seen as special by others. Most people don't get past this point, they get discouraged and move onto something else. Good to see that you only let it inspire you to create better work

flopp flipp

Pretty much. :/

I say if people like what you make it doesn't matter how many like it, your a winner in my book.

Yeah, you're right. Those movies are overrated. If I did the same exact thing I wouldn't pass the viewers judgement.

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